Sunday, February 7, 2010

What is your opinion of alien abduction stories, true, false or mass delusion?

I'm kind of interested in what you think about them.What is your opinion of alien abduction stories, true, false or mass delusion?
completely false and a delusion of most who claim they saw them.





I do think they TRULY believe they did see them though.





some just mistake objects they see in the sky for ufos and then insist its more interesting to believe in ufos.





some might have neurological disorders (those claiming to be abducted by aliens)





of course theres always room for the pathological lier and then the attention starved kid or lonerWhat is your opinion of alien abduction stories, true, false or mass delusion?
Cant say with certainty... 'Aliens visiting earth' seems more like fantasy and imagination to me...


Some years back, Mrs. Berger of Red Wood, Arizona had claims that she was abducted by alien beings. I instantly believed it to be a hoax, but that changed... They 'hypnotized' her, to get the truth out, and results indicated positive. She was NOT telling a lie...


There had been other cases to, which were proved to be false. I dont remember the name of that person, but he claims that 'he was abducted by aliens, transported to their mother ship, where he had a sexual encounter with an alien women.' It was quite lame though...


There had been a wide number of sightings of strange and unrecognized lights over a wide number of places, all over the world.





It all seems so confusing to me... About Red Wood, Arizona, that place is said to be intersection of inter-universe gateways. At the same time, there are legendary photographs by photographer, Tom Dongo, who captured unidentified beings on screen, allthough they were invisible to the eye, and that too, in this place. There had been many UFO sightings on this area too. On the whole, this place freaks me out...





EDIT: Thanks buddy, for calling me foolish... The thing is I got used to this kind of words...


Well, you live in Arizona.... I live thousands of miles away, up here in the Middle East. Also, you seem to have said that there are no redwoods in arizona, and you have quoted Google Earth as your source. Maybe, you didn't see these co-ordinates -


35°39'1.29';N, 112° 3'55.69';W


If you still dont get it, contact Google...
Depends on the person telling the story. Some do it just to get attention and don't believe they've been abducted, but just want attention for themselves. Those stories would be false.





Then you have people that honestly believe they were abducted by aliens. They aren't really lying because they really think they were abducted. Those stories aren't lies, but simply delusional statements made by people with over-active imaginations.
I think most of them are made up. There was a movie called Fire in the Sky. It was based on a supposedly true story about a close encounter of the fourth kind. It's ';true'; because the guy who claimed to have the close encounter passed a polygraph. Warning: Part of the movie is very scary because the guy was used for medical experiments.
Well, you can't paint it with a big brush.





First, hypnosis is NOT (repeat NOT) some magical process by which you can determine whether people are telling the truth or recounting events correctly. It is a persistent myth, going back to the Betty and Barney Hill case, that someone ';under hypnosis'; can inevitably and correctly recall things they previously forgot. There is absolutely no truth to the notion that you cannot tell a lie, or cannot consciously or unconsciously make up stories while under hypnosis.





The hypnotism to which the Hill's were subjected was, to put it mildly, crude and useless. The likelihood has subsequently been shown that the hypnotist was simply (but probably not intentionally) causing them to mix elements of fear and fantasy with their supposed recollections. For example, the alien Barney Hill described under hypnosis matches in fair detail to the ';alien'; on the Outer Limits episode that had aired some two weeks before his session.





Hypnosis simply does not prove that someone is telling the truth.





Now then, I think there is a phenomenon or set of phenomena that may actually be occurring and is being forthrightly reported by some and attributed to an abduction occurrence. These phenomena might include such things as sleep paralysis: comparatively rare but wholly natural phenomena that produce real symptoms and can incur very understandable emotional reactions. We still live in a world where unknown and unexpected things happen, and we are still all too willing to attribute them to some supernatural source.





On the other side of the coin you have people deliberately trying to make money and fame from the gullible UFO pseudo-religion. (Yes, it has many trappings of religion.) You should see how some of the more prominent ';contactees'; and ';abductees'; are treated at UFO congresses and meetings, one of which is held about every month somewhere across the U.S. These people are fawned over and treated like visiting dignitaries, with speeches and autograph signings and so forth. Nice work if you can get it.





The problem is that none of these people -- whatever their motivation, or the degree to which they choose to report it -- can produce any objectively appreciable evidence that their claimed symptoms and effects are the result of having been abducted by aliens. That's just what they say happened. It's the explanation they prefer. But there's no evidence that that's what actually happened to them.





So you can't say that everyone's just faking it to get attention. You can't say that everyone's having real experiences that need to be explained. You can't say that it's proof of some supernatural force. You just have to look at each case.
This goes back to a married couple who had a missing time experience way back around 1960. While their story has been intensively investigated, they stuck to it.





However some others are pretty dubious. One woman claimed to have been abducted on a nightly basis over an extended period and the comment from I think the late Carl Sagan was that it was a marvel her neighbors didn't notice.





Apart from the Hills, perhaps the best know claimant is Nancy Lieder, the originator of the planet X myth. Her subsequent behavior over her website and forum started in 1994 (if correctly reported) seems to be consistent with paranoid schizophrenia or something like that.
Nasim (A.K.A) Mohammed displays the perfect example of foolish gullibility which lends credibility to an easily verified falsehood.





There is no such place as Red Wood, Arizona or Redwood, Arizona. The only variation of that name is Redwood Spring (an actual spring, not a town)...in the middle of nowhere, and nobody lives there. The story he tells is a complete fabrication.
well some ppl do fake their stories for their 15 mins, but there are so many ppl who say they have experienced alien encounters (a lot of which are very similar) i dont think we can blow them off like the whole thing is a joke. but then again, ppl might say theyve encountered aliens while they were actually under mass delusion, and their description of the aliens might look similar becuz theyre all expecting the same features, small white creatures with giant heads lol thanks to sci-fi films, right? even though a lot of ppl dont believe in aliens, and i cant say they do becuz i have never seen any, but i think its POSSIBLE that there might be aliens out there..
False or delusion.
its all stupid stuff

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